Jahiliya today in #Saudi. How many of you tolerate it and why?

At 3:26 Princess Sahar says “This is 21st century, Jahiliya committed right in front of the world”…. Princess Jawaher “The world is also responsible and complicit…”
Muslims would consider Jahiliya either a thing of the past Mekkan tradition or referring to idol worship and non-Islamic practise.  I am writing this as an appeal to fair minded people who follow a path they regard as the only truth and humbly ask them to search in their heart.

Is it true, Jahiliya today in #Saudi. How many of you tolerate it and why?

I’ve  heard of Jahiliya before but never paid any attention, flippantly dismissing it as “Oh Yeah! Things they did in days of yore”   It was only while watching a video [linked below] when I heard it in a context that just did not sit comfortably.  The only way I can describe it – like a grain of sand in your shoe.

This video is part of a story in itself.  About the four adult daughters of the King of Saudi Arabia, the custodian of the holiest place for global Islam.  In case you are not aware of Jahiliya I’ve copied a little from HubPages [link]

What is Jahiliyya?

Jahiliya Arabia

The Tribes of Pre-Islamic Arabia

Jahiliyya- The Days of Ignorance

Jahiliyya is the Arabic term used to refer to the period of time before Muhammad received his first revelation of the Qur’an. It literally means the Days of Ignorance since Makkan society in pre-Islamic Arabia was morally bankrupt and ignorant of the one true god Allah.

The Main Features of Jahiliyya

The period of Jahiliyya was marked by a distinct lack of morals- people practised polytheism and worshipped idols and statues housed in the Kab’ah. The status of women was very poor and women were treated as second class citizens. Unlimited polygamy was practised as well as female infanticide. Gambling, the charging of interest (usury) and the consumption of alcohol was also commonplace………

At 3:26 Princess Sahar says “This is 21st century, Jahiliya committed right in front of the world”

Why would she use the word Jahiliya? When she describes her father the King of Saudi Arabia and the male guardians of her family. [Please also familiarise yourself on Male Guardianship] or here [jump to link] sorry it’s only wikipedia.

In case you are wondering why on earth am I writing about one tiny little word. Please read on, but first, may I suggest that you watch this video. They need help and who knows, you, might be the person that unlocks this conundrum.

Islamic Insights has this to say on Jahiliya [please read the full article linked here]

 

The era preceding the message of Islam was one of the most important eras to study. It is that era that Islam fought first and aimed to change. That era is known as the Age of Jahiliyya (Ignorance).

 

At first look, one might say that Islam fought and changed the people during Jahiliyya, but given our current technological and scientific era, things are different. Upon examining Jahiliyya deeper, it will be very evident how our world today is very different from the world back then on the surface, but at their cores they are exactly the same. Understanding these similarities is key if we are to follow the right path, enjoin the good, and forbid the evil.

Tribalism and Nationalism

During Jahiliyya, people used to take pride in belonging to a specific tribe. This strong sense of belonging was translated into belittling those who belonged to other tribes. Each tribe started seeing itself as the best for whatever reason. These reasons can include pedigree, wealth, power, army force, trade, recognition, and so on.

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#YesAllWomen A Talk to Men on “Manbox”

Rape 24,923 #YesAllWomen in 2012 #India Misogyny Patriarchy Chauvinism

5 arrests including to policemen

Rape India 27thmay2014
On NDTV
The two girls, cousins and aged 14 and 15, went missing from their house on the night of May 27 after they stepped out to relieve themselves. They were allegedly abducted by some men from the village.
Badaun Sisters’ Gang-Rape: Rahul Gandhi Meets Family
(Hidden in India’s Toilet Statistics, the Real Threat of Sexual Violence)

 

Guardian has this to say

 

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Why Rape Seems Worse in India Than Everywhere Else (but Actually Isn’t)

Yes, the gang rapes have been shocking — but India’s reputation as rape capital is undeserved

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Join  Anand or read the 2013 Delhi rape article in NYTimes [jump to link]

To talk of rape with so many of Delhi’s men is to discover a chasm between the world of their minds, flush with medieval ideas of womankind, and the world of the modernizing megacity in which they find themselves. In fact, many men — including those at the barber stall that day — attribute the rape problem to vertiginous social change that has created new temptations at a faster rate than the new habits to cope with them.

The barber put it simply: Rape isn’t a man’s fault. “It’s the fault of the times,” he said.

He said that rape was the result of poor choices made by women. “Wearing the wrong kind of clothes, eating the wrong kind of food, going to the wrong kind of places,” he said.

It is a familiar notion, here and elsewhere, that women entrance men into rape by wearing particularly cute skirts. Men will be men, the argument goes, which apparently means that men will be rapists. The barber gave a metaphor: “Where there’s a candle and a fire together, the candle will melt.” He added: “The fire is always the girl. The candle is the boy.”

A young boy of 10 named Durgesh was standing around, waiting on his father’s haircut. His face wore sadness, and it emerged that his sister, Ratna, was locked in juvenile jail. She, too, was cast as modernity’s victim. She got a job, which led to taking a loan, which led to buying a cellphone, which led to plans with strange friends, which led to alcohol, which led to sniffing intoxicants on fabric, which led to jail.

When Ratna gets out next year, Durgesh wants her rusticated to the family’s ancestral village, in the state of Uttar Pradesh. “Otherwise,” he said, “she’ll get spoiled again.”

As the men spoke, a bit of feminism flared. Mr. Yadav was talking about removing his daughter from school when a male passer-by, wearing a sweater inscribed with the words “Two plus three equals 5,” burst forth, exclaiming: “That is not right!”

But Mr. Yadav barreled on. What really happens, he said, is that women trade sex for money to acquire nice clothes. When their mothers find out and confront them, they call what happened rape, to protect their honor.

“If the parents have only 10 rupees, and your daughter is wearing 100-rupee clothes, where is she getting those clothes?” Mr. Yadav said. Many of the men nodded. He wasn’t alone in assuming that most women are a couple of coveted outfits away from prostitution.

The man in the mathematical sweater was persuaded. “Who am I to judge?” he said now. He who had stood up for women just as quickly stood down.

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#MustWatch “Asking for it” #YesAllWomen

Thank You Button Poetry

 

The final frontier of denial, “asking for it” is a mentality people use to justify the world being less horrible than it is. Most commonly it is used to pretend that a rape victim ‘subliminally’ or ‘subtly’ gave consent, but it can also be used in context to say someone who leaves a quarter on the ground is just as guilty as the thief who steals it of the crime, having ‘tempted’ the criminal or perpetrator. In extremist cases, such as a few sects of Muslim religion, some women are forced to cover their hair to prevent ‘tempting’ men.Pertaining to sex, it is statistically estimated that about 1/3 men buy in Britain conform to the “asking for it” mentality.
“Did you hear about Katie? I feel really sorry for her.”
“Nah, man, she was asking for it.”
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Alpha male, Gentleman is how Elliot the UCSB killer saw himself #YesAllWomen respond

I post it here because, individuals  live in a self infused bubble where reality is filtered through our subjective experience and feelings.  This incident and Elliot’s comments inspired an online conversation on Saturday around the #YesAllWomen hashtag.  Men need to take the time to listen to the fear women experience on a daily basis.  This is collective consensus and society needs to change.

Retribution. Elliot’s last video ( probably won’t be there for long.)

“You girls have never been attracted to me,” Elliot Rodger, who killed six people before taking his own life, said in the video. “I don’t know why you girls aren’t attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. It’s an injustice, a crime, because… I don’t know what you don’t see in me. I’m the perfect guy and yet you throw yourselves at these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman.”

 

 

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#YesAllWomen “Maneater” song is about money? Read the lyrics and don’t hum the tune. It’s not funny

Or does it portray this woman as predator

Ultimate Classic  Rock suggests

Oates, who also recently disclosed that Hall & Oates’ ‘Rich Girl’ isn’t actually about a girl, went on to reveal that although it seems to be about a predatory woman, the duo’s 1982 smash ‘Maneater’ was really written about New York City. “‘Maneater’ is about NYC in the ’80s,” he explained. “It’s about greed, avarice, and spoiled riches. But we have it in the setting of a girl because it’s more relatable. It’s something that people can understand. That’s what we do all of the time.”

“Maneater”

She’ll only come out at nights
The lean and hungry type
Nothing is new
I’ve seen her here before
Watching and waiting
Ooh, she’s sittin’ with you
But her eyes are on the door

So many have paid to see
What you think
You’re gettin’ for free
The woman is wild
A she-cat tamed
By the purr of a Jaguar
Money’s the matter
If you’re in it for love
You ain’t gonna get too far

(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Watch out boy
She’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
She’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Watch out boy
She’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
She’s a maneater

I wouldn’t if I were you
I know what she can do
She’s deadly man
Amd she could really rip your world apart
Mind over matter
Ooh, the beauty is there
But a beast is in the heart

(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Watch out boy
She’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
She’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Watch out boy
She’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
She’s a maneater

[Instrumental Interlude]

Ooooooooh
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here she comes
Watch out boy
She’ll chew you up
(Whoa-oh, here she comes
(Watch out) she’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
(She’s a maneater)
Ooh, she’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here she comes, she’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
(Watch out)
She’ll only come out at night, ooh-oh
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here she comes
She’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
(She’s a maneater)
The woman is wild, whoooa
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here she comes
Watch out boy, watch out boy
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Oh, watch out, watch out
Watch out, watch out
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
(Yeah, yeah) she’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
(She’s a maneater)
She’s watching and waiting, ooh-oh
(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Oh, she’s a maneater

Lyrics have been copied from AZLyrics

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